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Old 09-05-2011, 04:53 PM
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Nelumbo nucifera for the winter?


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I have four Nelumbo nucifera plants outside and I ran into something I need a bit of advice for. What should I do for the winter?

I have heard that I just need to cut the leaves off and store them in something dry indoors. And then once spring gets here put them back in the water.

And then when should I bring them inside? They are in small cat litter buckets and a lotus/water lily tub.

One of them just shot out their first out of water leaf!

Any advice would be appreciated
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Old 09-05-2011, 05:15 PM
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I'm growing them for the first time this year too so I'm just learning myself about them. Nelumbo is hardy down to zone 4!! I've been told to just leave the tubs they are growing in out during the winter and that even if the water freezes over it won't hurt them. I've also been told they need a rest period so you want them to go dormant and not take them inside where they might continue growing.

I'd like to hear from experienced Lotus growers what they do and if they really are hardy to zone 4.
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Old 09-05-2011, 07:20 PM
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I have been told about this one that they aren't hardy to my zone. And that if they froze at all they would die.

I am pretty sure the type I have isn't a cold hardy one, but I didn't know for sure.

Thanks and hope you have a nice day
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:07 AM
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Some websites claim it can't freeze. And then some websites say it can freeze and that's how it goes dormant....

It would freeze solid for months, so would that hurt it?

Last years lotus didn't make it big enough and they died in the winter. So now that I have some bigger I don't want them to freeze and die.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:21 AM
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I dunno .. maybe once yours die back and goes dormant after the first freeze you can keep it in an unheated garage? Since I have two tubs full, I may leave one outside and overwinter the other one in the greenhouse.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:51 AM
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I live in a trailer, so I don't have a garage at all. I do have a porch, but it stays just as cold as outside.

It is either outside frozen. Or inside dormant somehow.
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Can you pull the underpinning back on you trailer & store it under there?
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Old 09-06-2011, 11:57 AM
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You mean put it under the trailer? It's just as cold under there. It would freeze solid anywhere I put it outside.

Good idea though.

I wish Michigan didn't get so cold....
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Originally Posted by jreidsma View Post:
You mean put it under the trailer? It's just as cold under there. It would freeze solid anywhere I put it outside.

Good idea though.

I wish Michigan didn't get so cold....
No even with pipe tape?
We lived in a trailer & this is how my aunt used to store her plants. She picked the lowest side & would put all her plants under it. Then she's wrap that sticky pipe tape around the outside of the bucket & plug it in on a timer.
It never kept anything warm-to-the-touch warm but it did keep it from freezing
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Old 09-06-2011, 12:09 PM
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Hi,
Sorry, but I don't seem to quite get what you are saying....

Do you mean that she would store the plants in a bucket under her trailer, and then have some sort of heater in the bucket?

Sorry, today has been a long day school starts tomorrow and I have been working on stuff all day.
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Old 09-06-2011, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jreidsma View Post:
Hi,
Sorry, but I don't seem to quite get what you are saying....

Do you mean that she would store the plants in a bucket under her trailer, and then have some sort of heater in the bucket?

Sorry, today has been a long day school starts tomorrow and I have been working on stuff all day.
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I meant she put the plants in buckets under the trailer, wrapped pipe heat tape around the whole bucket (the outside of the bucket) & heated them that way. She had the plug for the heat tape on a timer so it would only stay on for so long at a time, to keep the plants from getting too warm.
Come to think of it, I don't know if pipe heating tape is sticky or not? Oh well, this is what it looks like:
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Old 09-06-2011, 12:31 PM
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Hi,
That is a very good idea!

I am going to see if we could set up something like that.

I can't have the "tape" on the porch or under the trailer because my mom said it catches on fire.....

So I would have to have something over the bucket so they didn't get snow on them, and then have the plug in leading into the shed while having the bucket outside.

Any one else have a different idea in case this one won't work?
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Old 09-10-2011, 07:17 PM
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My mom said that she didn't want my lotus on fire

What about taking the leaves off of them and putting them in my fridge? Like in a tupperware container or something?

Then they wouldn't freeze, but would get decently cold.
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Old 09-10-2011, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jreidsma View Post:
My mom said that she didn't want my lotus on fire
Tell her she's on hand-warmer duty then

I don't know about the fridge, maybe someone else will though. It makes me nervous to put things in my fridge, I'm always afraid they will get stagnant moisture
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Old 09-10-2011, 07:34 PM
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Thanks, that was one of the first times I have laughed today

I have over wintered plants in the fridge before. Like my VFTs. That's where I got my idea form.

I would just have to change the water every once and a while.
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